Ani-Gamers staff writer Ink contributes a weekly column in which he examines the differences between the original Fullmetal Alchemist and its re-telling, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. To read previous entries, click here.
Watch Episode 61 – He Who Would Swallow God
Of course an obvious difference in this episode is that Bradley dies (please pardon the pun) at the hands of Scar in FMA2 instead of Selim’s misguided compassion and Mustang’s vengeful alchemy in FMA1, but the subtle difference (and even more subtle similarity) is how the Fuhrer’s deaths represent the nature of both series.
FMA1 has Mustang finish off Bradley at his mansion more or less in the presence of his own (adopted) family. The bane of Mustang’s political aspiration and target whose death would serve to avenge Hughes’ death, Bradley represents two final hurdles for Mustang: those of acquiring the throne to change the country for the better (miniskirt army!), and the resolution of a deep personal conflict (the loss of Hughes). The former, minus the miniskirt army, is more of FMA2’s territory, and it shows. Before he attacks Bradley, FMA1 Mustang runs into Ed and makes it known he has no chance at performing a coup and retaining the favor of the people thereafter. Thus FMA1 rather brilliantly puffs out its chest and says, “I’m all about my feelings, and the Fuhrer’s gonna pay for dropping my best buddy.” The emotional motivation trumps the political.
Surprisingly, FMA2 pitting Scar against Bradley does have a similar emotional edge, that of retribution for all but succeeding at Ishvalan genocide. However, even that motive is more politically poignant than dramatic given FMA2’s constant integration of racial themes. What makes the battle personal is Bradley bringing up Scar’s heretical acts of alchemy, and then Scar’s use of the intense light only experienced during a solar eclipse, the alignment of which is likened to God in the series, to blind Wrath while he carries out his attack on Scar’s faith. (Can you say, “awesome”? Good. I knew you could). Emotional ties also rear themselves in the form of a sort of reverence for Scar’s brother’s alchemic research via inner monologues from Scar when the battle is concluded and he emerges as victor. But even this revelation is used for strategic gain as opposed to emotional resolution.
Reasoning for Father’s moon-lust is given via a flashback to Ed and Al’s early days of alchemic study against the juxtaposition of the currently occurring lunar eclipse. Well-used Romantic imagery aside, the pace at which FMA2’s logic jump exhausts itself (seemingly ... there can yet be more) pales in comparison to FMA1’s use of a parallel reality. Whether or not you cared for it, FMA1 stuck to its decision, plausibly tied it in with its existing world, and used it for all it was worth throughout the final episodes and subsequent movie. So far in FMA2, Earth has no moon because it was swallowed by a dwarf who lost the power to keep it down but is still fighting the hiccups (or at least shows signs of it early on and then seems to be A-OK). Inconsistency would be the named difference here, but, there’s an odd consistency between series as well. Slight though it may be, the similarity is in the “all Amestrians are dead, oh ... now they’re not” sacrifice in FMA2, which almost frighteningly parallels FMA1’s “my brother’s dead, oh ... now he’s not” sacrifice in FMA1. But there are still three more FMA2 episodes, and a lot more can happen in that time, including poignancy.
There’s also something very worth noting in the way FMA1 and FMA2 deal with the relationship between Ed and Hohenheim. I’m not talking about the familial contempt, but the way in which FMA1 has Ed pretty much bat clean-up after the monster his father helps create in Dante (and is helpless against), and the way FMA2 has Ed pretty much sit on the bench as his father waits for the chess board to come into alignment with the vision he had 300 years ago (figuratively speaking ... or not). That is to say, at least in terms of battling the big guys, Ed plays only a very small part of a very effective team in FMA2 as opposed to the MVP he is in FMA1.
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Okay, um, either you really don't understand ANYTHING or...yeah.
"So far in FMA2, Earth has no moon because it was swallowed by a dwarf who lost the power to keep it down but is still fighting the hiccups (or at least shows signs of it early on and then seems to be A-OK)."
First off, Earth still has a moon. I don't know if you were serious saying it didn't but EARTH STILL HAS A MOON. What Father did was open the Gate of Earth, and the Gate of the Sun/Moon and he swallowed the GOD (not the moon) that was inside that GATE. Each planet, moon, sun, system, the whole universe, and each individual person, has their own Gate and Truth. Read up on pantheism Ink. Read up on Kabbalah especially cause that's what Hirmou Arakawa based everything in FMA on.
And Father didn't really swallow "God" he swallowed a vast amount of knowledge of the universe, which is what is inside the Gate. That's why he's able to make mini-suns and control the weather. (I don't know what the big purple energy-blast was in this episode, that wasn't in the manga)
Okay, so in review. Earth still has a moon. >_>
"Slight though it may be, the similarity is in the “all Amestrians are dead, oh ... now they’re not” sacrifice in FMA2, which almost frighteningly parallels FMA1’s “my brother’s dead, oh ... now he’s not” sacrifice in FMA1."
Okay, so Brotherhood (the manga) made you BELIEVE that all Ametrians were maybe dead. But they never were. Unlike in FMA1 where Ed actually DIED and then was brought back life (something straight up impossible in FMA2) I don't recall if Brotherhood explained this but in the manga there are 3 parts that make up a human. The body, mind and soul. The soul is connected to the body by the mind. The soul can be taken from the body but there is still a link between it and the mind. What Father did was take everyone's souls because souls are massively powerful forms of energy. That's why they’re used to create philosopher stone. Technically Father created a PS with all those souls and he was using the energy to "hold 'God' down" within his new body. (also souls are in the blood if you never caught that little tidbit)
Anyway the point being that the people of Ametris never died - they just had their souls separated from their bodies. Eventually they would have died from lack of oxygen to the brain or something of that nature (so pretty quickly as well) but since there is a bond between a soul and its original body (linked by the mind) Hohenheim was able to get everyone's souls back to their bodies.
And now that Father no longer has that energy source he’s having trouble holding “God” down inside him, but he’s still extremely powerful as long as he can just barely keep “God” inside him. (gotta keep putting quotations around God)
Also so you know. The way for a person to be surely absolutely, can’t be brought back to life ever, dead in FMA is for their soul to disappear completely. Or rather when a person dies their soul disperses and becomes energy in the world (part of that “One is All, All is One” thing)
One other fun-fact: Remember when Ed said Icarus tried to reach God by reaching the sun but his wings melted and he fell? Father was able to reach God during an eclipse when the sun was blocked out.
Anything else your having some strange sort of trouble understanding (probably because of the massive amounts of fail Brotherhood has been lately and how it’s not nearly as thorough as the manga) I’ll be happy to explain.
Also: Episode 62 was an awful adaptation (almost as bad as 61 if not worse). You should really read the manga one of these days Ink if you ever have the time. Or at least the last 4 chapters.
Just as a note that I've stated previously and will state again, this is a comparison between anime series, sans manga content. I don't read comic books or manga (nothing against them, they just don't agree with me).
Seeing as I was speaking glibly about the swallowing of the moon, I hoped the sardonic tone of that statement would be obvious. The juxtaposition of this even against all that has happened in FMA2 so far just seemed to make the jump to ludicrous speed. I was trying to note that in as few words as possible while retaining some humour and extended metaphor.
As to the Pantheistic nature of the series, totally! Why do you think I take many chances to note the Romantic elements of the series. After all, Romanticism (as you probably already know) holds similar trains of thought (definitely not identical, mind you, but similar).
I do believe FMA2 covered the mind body soul connection, but very long ago (or so it seems to me). So I definitely overlooked that one. And as much as that fault is on me, it is also FMA2's for not making it a more essential part of the workings of this universe. Not that it needs to beat a dead horse, but other instances of this would be nice to have seen throughout as a reminder of the law (or maybe watching it somehow other than week by week, say, a disc or two at a time). Al's situation could apply thusly, but he is presented as a special case. Though I can see now that he was in fact supposed to be said reminder, his use as such is implemented carelessly in my opinion due to the degree of which we know his involvement with the gate versus that of ordinary people without any knowledge of it. In short, Al’s experience and the important placed on it are variables that doesn't exist for everyone, so how can he be the example. How this could have been pulled off otherwise is beyond me (maybe they did it better in the manga, or reading it in the manga made it stick in the mind all the better.
Picked up on that Icarus loophole, was quite nicely done. Made me chuckle at the wit.
You mentioned massive amounts of fail for Brotherhood, what else has been eating you as a FMA manga reader? Not gonna get me to read it, but it would be nice to hear opinions on it none the less. I'm still looking to get a copy of vol 14? (Ishvalan War of Extermination) based on one reader's (was it yours?) suggestion.
Thanks for setting some things straight and your continued readership (don't worry, I'll only be pissing you off for 3 more episodes).
That's a problem with your diaries though...they're so analytical I can't tell what you really think of the show - not just whether you like it or not but also what you take from it as a story in of itself apart from FMA1. I know the point is to compare it which is what I like about your particular insight into Brotherhood but sometimes it gets frustrating since I can't tell how you really feel about it.
"Seeing as I was speaking glibly about the swallowing of the moon, I hoped the sardonic tone of that statement would be obvious."
Like I said before, you write most everything like your writing a doctorate paper so I can't tell ^^;
Okay, sorry I was kinda acting all pissed in that post. Just the last few episodes of Brotherhood all the blogs I read reviewing it, people don't seem to be getting it and most of them gloss right over any of the pantheistic ideas. Most of them don't even remember Truth’s introduction to Ed in episode 2 or notice that everyone has a different Gate unless you point it out - I suppose most of these guy's are westerners and are stuck in a mindset of God must be Monotheistic, maybe polytheistic but they never think of pantheism. So I guess I just assumed you didn't get it all as well (though it shouldn't be surprising since your obviously very well learned) and took some of that other frustration out on you. Sorry again.
Yeah, it is FMA2’s fault, it was definitely something that stuck in the manga and was way more essential. It got mentioned several times at key points. And episode 20 of Brotherhood, most manga-readers like it a lot because it’s well-animated and Romi kills voice acting as usual. But it’s one of my least favorite episodes because it really cuts a lot of manga stuff and it goes into episode 21 just the very beginning of it explaining things learned in episode 20. But in the manga there was a lot more to it, it was a lot more clearly presented, and it took up several chapters (the content of 20-21). All that stuff was one of the biggest revelation moments in the manga but it gets pretty glossed over in Brotherhood because of the pacing. I know for fans of the manga when it was still coming out, thinking up theories and trying to understand all of the FMA universe, those are some of the chapters most often referred to for understanding and research.
The way Al served as a reminder was that this rule constantly served as a reminder as to why he couldn’t stay in the armor body. It was being brought up “a normal human is connected through the body and soul by the mind” but Al’s soul is in a body that isn’t his so one day they’ll reject each other because the soul belongs to its body, not anyone else’s (even if they can be separated) and also that Al was being pulled away from his body by the link his soul shares with his body, formed by the mind. He was serving as a reminder that way. He is indeed a special case because his body is kept rejuvenated by the Gate but it was pretty clear to the manga readers because the actual law was brought up along with him, he wasn’t just meant to serve as a reminder standing on his own.
(Part two of something ridiculously long)
What is it about manga that doesn’t agree with you? Do you have trouble following pictures and dialogue together in that way? Cause I’ve know people like that myself. Rather disappointing since manga are better than anime 75% of the time.
It’s volume 15 that’s the Ishval Flashback. If your getting a copy does that mean you’re going to read it?
Well, lots of things bother me about Brotherhood… Up until recently I really liked it most of the time but I don’t think they’ve done so well with the ending. Episode 60 was surprisingly good at face value but starting at episode 61 they’ve dropped the ball. It looks like their budget is blown too because 62 had some really crappy animation despite being the most important part of the story.
I just don’t think they’ve done the manga justice. I’m fine with the anime not following the manga to the letter and standing on it’s own but they’ve missed out on details and brilliant subtleties in the recent chapters (most of this referring to 62) as well as sped through everything at break neck speed in 61 (it covered 2 and a half chapters of 60 page length) and not set things up as well in the beginning of the story to make it as meaningful, understandable, or impactful in these last episodes.
But I’ve figured out that my main problem with Brotherhood is that I don’t think a story like FMA should be presented this way. There’s a reason this story was presented one chapter once a month over the course of nine whole years (okay that’s how most long manga are released but still). It’s a very deep story with a lot to take in, a lot to analyze, and a lot to figure out. During the reading of the manga fans sat down for the month in-between each chapter and carefully analyzed everything presented to them in the new chapter. Every bit of dialogue and every image, and compiled and connected it with everything they’d gathered over the previous chapters.
And over the many months and years they were able to figure out the workings of this universe down to the very last speck and understand it so when you get “HOLY WTF?” moments like chapter 104 (episode 60) after a little thought it all makes since and adds to your understanding of this very detailed world that Arakawa has built. It’s not like FMA is just a messy puzzle you have to bang your head against the wall trying to figure out…but it’s not the kind of story that lays everything out for you on the surface. You have to dig deep and be willing to devote some time, or at least some time to the forums, to truly understand and appreciate it. But Brotherhood is a fast paced anime – 26 minute episodes once a week – that glorifies it’s action and glosses over the details and isn’t gonna make most fans want to think about more than what they see at the surface. So I don’t think it’s the best way to go about experiencing FMA.
And sure you could read the manga now, every single chapter in a week, and then go back and think about it. So you could do the same when Brotherhood is finished. But the manga is so much more detailed than Brotherhood. Brotherhood makes me think of putting a sheet of white paper over a page of the manga and messily tracing it, then giving it to someone to read instead of the actual page.
My intent concerning the Diaries was to be analytical from the get-go...to remove all aspects of self in order to objectively get to the proverbial meat of difference between the series. My own opinions were to be irrelevant, but the subtle (and not so) seeping in of such could not be avoided. However objective my usual diaries strain to be, my final wrap-up will not be (that is to say the sum-up post will show my utter subjectivity concerning the series in respects to each other and independently)...so hold on until the post after the post concerning FMA2's last episode to see how I feel about the newest animated incarnation of FMA.
And no worries about pointing out Pantheism (or being enthusiastic about underlying influences throughout); what I don't mention outright (or miss entirely), I'm glad some enlightened individual does! It all helps the Diaries inform their readers of thoughts behind the series as well as those of its viewers. So it's all good.
Regarding manga and comic books, it's the flow that bothers me. I like reading (please don't take this to be snobbish, because it's totally not meant to be) books without pictures because of a couple of different things: pictures interrupt/interfere with the linear sequence of the symbols that make readers form thoughts, and the arrangement of pictures dilutes the concentration needed to follow text to text and link image to text. I'm not putting down manga or comic books in any way. They are a great medium, but my head simply can't get a substantial experience from them (and I've tried more than a few times...exception being *sigh* Scott Pilgrim). That being said, I will read Vol. 15 of FMA, because I'm generally not one to ignore exceptional works due to their medium, and no volume in the series has been pinpointed as such a pinnacle of talent as Vol. 15 has been in FMA.
Also, thanks for the elaborative explanation of some of the manga conflicts. They've given me great hope for what (and how) the true story tells, even though I may never allow myself its indulgence. Also, I like your ending analogy. You'll find out why in four weeks or so ;)
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